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February 28th, 2010 | by Oliver Suarez
With the help of events such as Pinoy Power, Nonito Donaire Jr., definitely one of the most talented fighters in the game, has slowly begun to gain the recognition that he has long deserved after his career-defining victory over Vic Darchinyan. For his stature to skyrocket, all he needs now is to secure a fight against another top notch opponent, which so far has been a difficult task for The Filipino Flash. It seems like whenever he’s about to catch a break in his career, another obstacle comes along to hinder any momentum. It’s as if he’s got an albatross hanging around his neck.
Donaire just might be the most polarizing figure in Philippine boxing today. He’s the Filipino version of Oscar De La Hoya. Most Filipinos either hate him or love him. Although born in the Philippines, many of his countrymen don’t consider him “Filipino” enough, mainly because he grew up in America, and some perceive him to be lacking the “traditional” Filipino values.
Now his dad’s recent interview with Dennis Guillermo of Examiner.com provided more ammo for Nonito’s critics as the elder Donaire let out all the frustrations and disappointments he had for his son. In the interview, Nonito’s dad basically lambasted his son’s wife, calling her a golddigger and portraying Nonito as an ungrateful son.
The harsh words from Donaire Sr. about the couple in fact are so damaging that the criticisms mentioned above may not have been the worst of them all. In fact, there were things that might have been better left unsaid as they may be deemed too personal by many people. Below are a couple of quotes from the interview.
When asked what message he wanted to tell his son.
“I want to talk to him and ask him why he seems like he is so mad at our family as if we all have some disease that he is afraid of. Even his very own man, think about it Dennis, his mom that loves him so much, how it feels for a mom to hug her own child, what did he say? He just hugged her and told her to be thankful for the $500 he gave her. Is that how a son acts? Just because he gave $500 is that a big deal to him already?”
On whether Nonito has provided support for his side of the family.
“Since he married that girl… before he used to give his mom $500 a month. When they got married, that was cut off and Rachel was saying all kinds of things. Another painful thing is when he fought in the Philippines, it was his mom’s birthday. They (Rachel’s camp) gave her rules and regulations that she can’t ask for a shirt, she can’t ask for tickets and that she can’t stand from her seat when they declare Nonito the champion because their personal security won’t allow you to climb the ring. That’s why when I read that, I really felt bad for my wife. She herself raised her son. We supported him from the amateurs til’ he became a world champion and then that’s the thanks you get?
And another thing.. she was called by GMA after Jr.’s win for an interview and then Rachel’s mom told her “Where are you going? You know the rules right?” Imagine what pain a mother would feel being treated that way who didn’t do anything wrong to them and all she wanted was to answer the interview by GMA.”
Obviously, the tension between both camps has not improved and worse than previously thought. The overwhelming perception was probably that the problems existed only between Donaire Sr. and the couple, but as we found out, Nonito has been estranged from his whole side of the family.
The level of animosity between both sides are so severe that Donaire Sr. finally reached a point, where he could no longer stay quiet and felt the need to set things straight while defending his family from the criticisms that was supposedly thrown at them by the other side.
Sometimes bad publicity can be beneficial since it’s better than no publicity at all, but that may not apply in this situation because Nonito had not yet fully gained the total support of the Filipino boxing fans. Now it’s probably going to take some time to build up his image again since the interview with Donaire Sr. only affirms the criticisms of him supposedly being arrogant and lacking ‘Filipino” values.
But to be fair, we must wait to hear from Nonito and Rachel regarding the elder Donaire’s tirade before passing judgment on the couple. There are always two sides to a story and personal biases can affect a certain person’s point of view. Also, many people I’ve met that have gotten the chance to know Nonito always had positive opinions of him.
I’ve met Nonito a couple of times and always found him to be very approachable and accommodating to everybody specially his fans. But it will be hard for many to not look at Nonito in a different way after hearing his father’s statements. Although one must try to put this issue in perspective and try not to let personal biases affect our point of view. Nonito is not the first one to have problems with family members and unfortunately his situation might not be too uncommon.
Although Nonito’s situation with his family can serve a reminder to today’s athletes to always remember where they came from and how they got there. As Jose Rizal, Philippines’ national hero once said. “He who does not know how to look back at where he came from will never get to his destination.”
(for questions email Oliver at osuarez@fighthype.com and follow him on twitter @sportzhype, Facebook)
Click the link below to read and listen to the full interview of Donaire Sr.
Nonito Donaire Sr. speaks out on his son Nonito Donaire Jr. and their estranged relationship
Nonito Donaire Jr Truly Appreciates His Fans
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February 28th, 2010 at 11:36 PM
Life is a trade off.
It may be a piece of meat in exchange of
ungratefulness at the expense of … once loved ones.
February 28th, 2010 at 11:57 PM
let’s just focus on his career as a boxer. let’s not dwell on his personal life. that’s a family matter. only them can resolve the issues.
after all, nobody is perfect!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 12:02 AM
well… GOD knows better than us… HE has his way to let those who forget HIM knows what is best for being a good SON.
there’s a saying in Filipino that you can Have four wives and you can replace them 10 times, but you can’t replace you mother, your father, your siblings… those are the people that will always be with you in time that you are alone, you have no money or you can’t even move your body for some other reasons… SO NONITO LOVE YOUR FAMILY… be proud of them… Look at Manny Legacy, He is so proud of HIS Mom.. Aling Dionesia… can you do the same. and who the hell is the mother of your wife to tell your MOM what she has to do. She did not bear you for 9 months… She should be so shameful of herself…
March 1st, 2010 at 12:22 AM
Just ask Nonito’s Mother. She will not lie. We can finally find out the truth. Word around the bay area is that Rachel is a gold digger who was already married. weird that she hooked up with him AFTER he was the champ lol
March 1st, 2010 at 12:32 AM
if thats the case and its true then shame on him
March 1st, 2010 at 12:40 AM
I don’t want to hear anything from Donito Jr. to say anything bad against his father.
The best thing Jr. can do is to talk to his parents in a close sound proof room and discuss everything that brought them into this situation then how can they solve the problem and seek reconciliation afterwards. Donito Jr. can also bring his wife but do not bring his parents-in-law. It will only make the situation worst if he do that. Donito Jr. is the man so he should lead it and not his wife nor parents-in-law.
Donito Jr., do not deny the love, respect and support your parents deserves from you. You are nothing without them. Your wife may possibly abandon you if you are empty-handed but your parents can’t, remember that, so don’t wait until your fall to realize that.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:59 AM
MGA GAGO! ANONG FAMILY AFAIR,OO KUNG ORDINARYONG TAO OK LANG NA D TAYO MAKIALAM,PERO ITONG NONITO JR NA TO, PUBLIC FIGURE NA, ARTISTA NA NGA EH, LUMALABAS NA SA TV, MAGIGING MASAMANG EHEMPLO TO SA MGA BATANG PILIPINO, OK LANG BA NA KALABANIN ANG MGA MAGULANG? BIGYAN NG SAKIT NA LOOB ANG INA? HINDI KAUSAPIN ANG MGA KAPATID? PATI BABAENG KAPATID SINAMA NA, TAMA BA ITO. ETONG MGA NAGSASABING FAMILY AFAIR LANG TO,AY MGA KAMPO NI JR TO, AYAW LUMAKI ANG ISSUE KASI NAHIHIYA RIN. MGA WALANG HIYA! LUMAYAS KAYO SA PILIPINAS KUNG PUPUNAIN NYO ANG PAMAMARAAN NG PAGPALAKIN NG ANAK SA PILIPINAS. BUMALIK KAYO SA AMERIKA. AT ITONG ASAWANG MUKHANG PERA, MA KARMA KA SANA. D NAMAN GUWAPO SI JR, BAKIT PINATULAN? PERA LANG. UN LANG. MARAMING SALAMAT PO.MABUHAY ANG PINOY!!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 2:25 AM
They pronounces his name as DON-AIR, not the usual filipino (Donayre). And he never corrected it for so many times…NOT Filipino at all
March 1st, 2010 at 2:29 AM
BE EASY. THAT IS ALL. LET THE FLASH KEEP ESTABLISHING HIMSELF AS ONE OF THE BEST AND LET THINGS UNRAVEL ON ITS OWN. WOUNDS WILL HEAL ON ITS OWN. JUST DON’T DO THINGS THAT WILL RISK THE WOUND GETTING WORSE.
March 1st, 2010 at 2:41 AM
nonito donaire sr. should shut up! he’s a lousy trainer! ciso morales and marvin sonsona both just lost and they were being trained by the same trainer.
March 1st, 2010 at 2:50 AM
RECURRING FILIPINO LIFE STORY
There’s this RECURRING FILIPINO LIFE STORY under diff. variations but d plot remains d same. Goes something like this, d family is poor have a small farm w/ some animals & they have 3- 4 kids. w/ a scholarship for the eldest son, d parents sells their farm animals, mortgages d farm & immerse themselves neck deep in indebtedness to send their eldest son to medical/law/whatever school and tells the other kids they have to quit school coz we can only afford to send one & hopefully when he becomes a doctor, your “kuya” will take us out of this life of poverty. “ALL IN” Big mistake. So the younger sibling’s education is put off, their young hands needed in the farm, days become weeks, months, years and becomes permanent. Many years pass and kuya meets this strong willed (20 going 40) with all the wiles of a saloon madam just before he graduates, she goes after him purposefully. She shows him much love and SUPERSIZES THE LOVE SHE SHOWS HIM BY DESIGN, so he’s now love struck. She tells her friends & family “doctor yata yan”. Virginal Kuya who has never known any woman b4 was given a taste of heaven & just went bananas. Tangna, ang galing humigop. AND JUST LIKE IN THE SONG “WHEN A MAN LOVES A WOMAN” by Michael Bolton, rachel couldn’t do no wrong and Kuya would trade d world and his family for d good thing he’s found. “loving eyes can never see.”
They marry, starts a family and he’s now very successful. Kuya attributes his success to his wife. Occasionally, he mouths off his appreciation for his parent’s sacrifices but does little to help their plight or his siblings, when he does, he does grudgingly and he now starts to count every penny like the wife who needs to approve it all, quite unlike the “ALL IN” hope that the parents placed on him. Needless to say kuya is generous to a fault with the wife’s family. He checks back on his database for some old perceived transgressions of his dad & siblings to mitigate his own. You see he’s changed now and still he doesn’t realize it.
The parents passes away before their time mostly from self deprivation and disappointment at the outcome of their aspirations and in large part GUILT for what they unwittingly brought upon their younger children. The older of the siblings inherits the small farm and the others become dirt poor sharecroppers, they remain very close. Once a year, during Christmas they get to see their kuya in his great big house in the city with his half dozen vehicles and houseful of helpers with their children in exclusive schools and before they head for home kuya would give them some money enough for the family’s fare back home & then some. The kids would get some hand me downs and then they’re back to the grinding poverty till next year when the kids experience a semblance (as outsiders looking in) of the joys of Christmas with all its trappings. They never knew better, they just don’t know why things are d way they are. The siblings impoverished now even of intellect, are not bitter & r still very proud of their kuya.
Who among us never heard this story? It leaves one to wonder. Did the son ever square away with his parents, his siblings or their children? WILL HE EVER? The thing about it is that the typical parent is averse in asking help from their children afraid to be misinterpreted as greedy, or imposing their will upon their children who are now grownups. The father usually speaks for the family, and he could have explained it better that his siblings only need a little push and perhaps kuya could have said “dad naman, ang laki naman noon, paano naman yung asawa kong pacute, she needs to maintain her image na asawa siya ng doktor, ganito na lang dad, saka ganoon na lang dad, and also huwag mo nang kinicriticize yung asawa ko, kung mahal mo ko, mahalin mo na rin yung mahal ko sa buhay kahit na masama ugali kc magaling trumabaho”, and then all would have been well. But he never said anything, he goes “ dapat naiisip na nya yon” problema walang isip yung anak nya.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:00 AM
do not judge a person wrongly. it’s only them who really knew the root cause of their problem. let’s leave the matter to them. always, a story has two sides. the important thing is that nonito is proud to be a Filipino and let’s support him for his patriotism.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:45 AM
Donair mocks how filipino talks and their accents. not filipino at all. and some comments here says something about the filipino “sayings”, i dont think u had an idea that donair grew up in america, so he doesnt know those sayings and thats why he acts like that towards his family its because he lacks some filipino values. and please stop blaming his wife. and stop talking about somebodyelses personal life pppllsss.. if this issue is true then let karma prevail
March 1st, 2010 at 4:00 AM
fROM sAN lEANDRO CALIFORNIA….NONITO DON-AIR!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 4:35 AM
True or untrue, jr. should stick to his Filipino values…love and respect for family..
just like pacman.
March 1st, 2010 at 5:21 AM
hearing what sr. divulged, it seems that jr. is not a filipino at all. always loved your parents
March 1st, 2010 at 5:30 AM
It is just very apparent right now who needs who and who’s using who.Obviously,Gayweather can’t stop talking about Pacquiao after ducking one of the all time greats.For sure Gayweather did not have any intentions of fighting Pacquiao in the first place. He fooled the world that he’s got the balls to be manhandled by Pacquiao.W/ regard to his comment that Pacquiao is a liar because he is a foreigner,THIS SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN LIGHTLY BY ALL CULTURAL MINORITIES IN THE US.MAY YOU BE A BOXING FAN OR NOT. FLOYD’S BADMOUTHING HAS GONE TOO FAR.THIS IS AN INSULT TO ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE US WHO HAVE FOREIGN DECENT. FLOYD IS A SHAME TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. ALL MEXICANS, FILAMS, ASIANS, EUROPEANS, AND EVERYBODY WHO RESPECT RACIAL DIVERSITY, LET’S ALL UNITE AND TEACH THE MAYWEATHERS THE LESSON THAT THEY SHOULD’VE LEARNED IN GRADE SCHOOL.BOYCOTT MAYWEATHER’S UPCOMING FIGHT.DON’T WATCH HIM ON TV.THIS WAY, HE WILL REALIZE THAT RESPECT SHOULD BE GIVEN EVEN TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO CALL FOREIGNERS LIARS!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 6:00 AM
hes filipino american i think he always put that out on front. just like anna julaton and didn’t they train together when they were younger.
March 1st, 2010 at 7:07 AM
YOUR ALL IDIOTS, YOU ,ALL IDIOTS, SHOULD LEAVE PEOPLE’S PERSONAL PROBLEMS ALONE.
March 1st, 2010 at 12:01 PM
You see, I believe what his father says, Son’s can say terrible things against their father but father will always protect them, but right now as if Donaire Sr.’s patience has run off, maybe its too much.
You dont treat your mother like that, I myself was like abandoned by my mother, but now I am here in US I send money to my mother $1000 a month because I love them, my half brother and my half sister I love them. You see? beauty is a fraud!
What will I do to the beauty and body and performance if it will give me a short good time, and will give me a miserable lifetime?!?
I pray for Donaire Jr. that he could stand it for long long long long life..
Life is not always merry, sometimes you go down, you should have think and figured it out if your wife will be at your side even if you cant bring enough food to the table.
March 1st, 2010 at 12:02 PM
hoping,their domestic problems would be settle soon, on both parties.so, it may not affect Nonito’s jr.carrier.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:00 PM
Oliver, you should not be writing details of his personal life on who- said -that- on- what. “Not in good terms” should be appropriate. My only wish is for Nonito to respect his parents. Even Manny respected his dad after he left his kids under the care of his Mom. Manny indeed represents the true Juan De LA cRuz .
March 1st, 2010 at 2:26 PM
after jr’s poor showing against mthlane, sr left for the philippines for no apparent reason. some believed, it was in disgust, because his son and rachel were inseparable even during training that resulted in nonito’s poor performance in the ring. manny pinol wrote an article of advice for sr. and freddie roach offered to train jr. but jr declined out of respect for his father. jr kept his mouth shut, but is being destroyed now by his father. what kind of father is he who destroys his own son? what kind of man is he, that has domestic problem who instead of solving, choose to broadcast it? is his own record to his family perfect and spotless? parents should learn the art of letting go once their children reached adulthood.
March 1st, 2010 at 2:39 PM
DONAIRE IS PUSSY WHOOP! ONE MORE LOST HE WILL BECOME BURNED OUT! NO MATTER WHO HE GETS FOR A TRAINER, HE WILL NOT BE MORE OR EVEN COME CLOSE TO WHERE PAC IS AT..HE IS A WASTE OF TIME!
March 1st, 2010 at 2:57 PM
I CAN’T BLAME HIS WOMAN OR THE IN-LAWS. THEY HAVE A JOB AS TO GOLD DIG. THAT IS SURVIVAL. IT’S DOG EAT DOG WORLD AND GET WHAT YOU CAN AND RIDE IT UNTIL IT BURNS OUT, AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FAME AND FORTUNE JUST IN CASE DONAIRE GETS BURNT OUT JUST MOVE TO THE NEXT MONEY MACHINE OUT THERE. BY THEN SHE WILL BE INDEED FAMOUS AND KNOW A LOT OF OTHER SINGLE FAMOUS PEOPLE AND HOOK UP WITH THEM AND LEAVE DONAIRE’S BROKE AND SORRY.. HIS FATHER SAID THAT DONAIRE IS SCARED TO HER FAMILIES.. THAT IS JUST SORRY! WITH ALL THE FIGHTING ABILITY, BUT HAS NO BALLS TO CONTROL HIS SURROUNDINGS. WELL IF THAT’S WHAT DONAIRE WANTS, HE SURE SURE GOT IT.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:54 PM
Not worth parading in Manila Nonito!!!you just beat a straweight who has beaten by donnie nietes. You just talk a lot ” I will fight ARCE/DARChinyan/Montiel…etc…but darchinyan is corect you just keep fighting B & C level boxers
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:06 AM
LOVE YOUR FAMILY BOY…. COZ WHEN THINGS GET BAD, U SURE CAN COUNT ON THEM. BE GENEROUS TO YOUR FAMILY FIRST BEFORE TO OTHERS. HOPE YOU SEE THE LIGHT AND ASAP.
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:17 AM
GUYS NAMAN!!!
GIVE THE GUY A BREAK!!! HIS DAD IS LAMBASTING THE POOR GUY IN PUBLIC. I MEAN COME ON! IF I HAD A B.CH LIKE NONITO’S WIFE, I WOULD SCRAP MY FAMILY TOO! IMAGINE JUST FEASTING ON RACHEL DONAIRE EVERY NIGHT! DAMN!!! IHI LANG ANG PAHINGA!
May 13th, 2010 at 8:56 AM
The number of of you guys here play WoW and are going to reroll either a Goblin or a Worgen in the new expansion?